Kimia Ferdowsi Kline is a painter and sculptor who splits her time between Nashville and New York. She also curates the private collection at Wythe Hotel in Brooklyn. We talk about the challenge of not trying too hard, how pregnancy and motherhood has changed the work, the genius of Ali Wong, the metaphoric potential of her new materials, resisting the pressure to make work solely about identity politics, the difficulties of working during the pandemic, the practice of play in using salvaged wood, meditation as a creative tool, and art as a spiritual practice and way of healing.